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Sarge- 12-19-2005
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AGSI slams garda reserve plan
19 December 2005 16:08
The association representing Garda Sergeants and Inspectors has strongly criticised the Minister for Justice's plans to establish a garda reserve.

The reserve, to be made up of 900 volunteers, is due to begin part-time policing patrols next September.

The AGSI said it was horrified by the attempt to bring in what it called 'policing on the cheap'.

The association says reservists will be granted the power of arrest after 24 hours training.

They will not have to undergo a medical examination or pass an aptitude -*test*-('") to join; they will have access to confidential information on the Garda's Pulse computer system and they will be untrained and unqualified.

Gardaí, the association says, will have to nursemaid reservists on duty and clean up botched arrests and other incidents after them.

The AGSI also says it has already warned the Minister and the Department of the dangers to reservists and their families because their homes may be targeted by criminals.

The Department of Justice says a volunteer reserve force is a standard policing tool in many other countries and is intended to support the Gardaí here.

The proposed reserve is due to have 900 members and begin policing next September but the AGSI is due to meet the Minister again on the issue next month.


Sarge- 12-19-2005
AGSI is my unifon by the way. 24 hours training my rear end. Nothing against specials if theyre trained to the same standard as regs. I wouldnt take a volly on patrol with me with 24 hours training not a hope of it.

Donkey Walloper- 12-19-2005
Doesn't sound too good does it?

Would they be armed? sad.gif

Oldbillplod- 12-19-2005
Welcome to the cheap side of policing Sarge.

Aquilina- 12-19-2005
24 hours training! That really is bad. Will this be working like it does in your UK where you go in when you desire? Or will these reserve garda be called in when they are needed? Also, do you know how often they will be retrained. I still cannot understand 24 hours training. That cant be enouf.

Sarge- 12-21-2005
RICHIE WE ARNT ALL ARMED ONLY US DETECTIVES!! Im seems its going to be based on the uk system. I have no idea about their training but supposedly its 2 hours a day for 12 days. Its a complete joke. My union has put their fut down and im going to stick with them i feel the very same and if push comes to serve i wont bring a reserveist out on patrol with me if im not satisfied with their training i need to trust my partner

Donkey Walloper- 12-21-2005
I cant get it out of my head that you arn't ALL armed ! I keep thinking of the OLD RUC footage from the telly, armedv cops and soldiers ! Still don't think it's a good idea. dry.gif

Oldbillplod- 12-22-2005
QUOTE (Donkey Walloper @ Dec 21 2005, 09:15 PM)
I cant get it out of my head that you arn't ALL armed !

What is the difference between them not being armed and the rest of the UK mainland not being armed dry.gif

Sarge- 12-24-2005
He keeps confusing us with PSNI who where formerly RUC but I'm garda siochána different force altogether

Donkey Walloper- 12-26-2005
TRUE!

New Years Resolution (4) - STOP confusing Forces!

Orinoco- 01-19-2006
QUOTE (Sarge @ Dec 24 2005, 01:06 PM)
He keeps confusing us with PSNI who where formerly RUC but I'm garda siochána different force altogether

It's not his fault, he's Welsh! laugh.gif (and he rides a horse...!)

Sarge- 01-19-2006
LATEST:

McDowell dismisses volunteer garda concerns

19 January 2006 17:17
The Minister for Justice has dismissed the concerns of the Garda Associations over the establishment of a volunteer garda reserve force as spurious, conjured up objections.

Michael McDowell said he was not going to be frightened off or deflected from his plan to establish a 4000-member part time garda reserve, 900 of whom will be in place by September.

Speaking in Galway, he said that the Garda Commissioner can limit the reservists' powers of arrest and limit their access to sensitive files and information.

He also says that all volunteers will be vetted to ensure they are not members or associates of criminal gangs or subversive organisations.

He has called on the Garda Representative Association and the Association of Garda Sergeants and Inspectors to back him on his proposals.

He insists the reservists will not be yellow pack gardaí and that this will not be policing on the cheap

Sarge- 01-19-2006
When are they going to listen to us? I smell a strike coming on

Oldbillplod- 01-19-2006
QUOTE (Sarge @ Jan 19 2006, 07:04 PM)
When are they going to listen to us? I smell a strike coming on

Don't act like such a wuss, this is 2005 and your chief thinks its about time for some free labour.
Scared they might take your job wink.gif

Sarge- 01-20-2006
I wont trust them with 24 hours training and were all pretty peed off that theyre not listening to the 2 unions that represent 95% of the force

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